tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post9170528890451995648..comments2023-12-19T12:02:28.480+01:00Comments on Catudal Genealogy: Dit (dite) NamesJudy Schneiderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13274218591428949741noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-3099426231548309192022-07-24T13:03:57.115+02:002022-07-24T13:03:57.115+02:00Thank you for your comment.
The name St-Jean was a...Thank you for your comment.<br />The name St-Jean was a very common place name in France and in New France as well as being one of the most commonly used dit name. This is probably due to the very religious nature of France & New France; the Catholic religion to be specific ( Protestants and Jews were not allowed into New France. They were given the chance to convert but if they wouldn't they were sent back to France). St-Jean refers to St. John the Baptist. So, I'm inclined to say that the Isle St Jean was probably yet another example of the French paying homage to John the Baptist.<br />Please let your friend know that if she or you write to me at judy@catudals.com and let me know what her Catudal grandparent's names were (Grandmother's maiden name too if possible) then I'd be happy to let her know what her Catudal family history looks like.<br />Best regards,<br />Judy<br />Again, thank your for your comment. It was very interesting.Judy Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274218591428949741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-16265323891732674552022-07-23T12:01:21.397+02:002022-07-23T12:01:21.397+02:00Prince Edward Island was originally called Isle St...Prince Edward Island was originally called Isle St Jean. (My ancestry comes from there - Gallant-Hache). France sent 200 settlers to Isle St Jean but the winter was bad and none of them stayed. Do you suppose the dit St Jean may be related to that? Also, I am of Acadian descent and I’m quite familiar with dit from my research. also French Acadians on the island still refer to people by their parents name. For example, “you know peter? Peter of Marie?” They also refer to people by their location. Also for example my great grandfather on my maternal side was known as “Pepe at the cape” (Cape Egmont)<br />I think catholic names were repeated so much that distinguishing identities had to be added and likely the dit was found to be very useful and adopted into the general naming styles. I’ve haven’t seen any of your research yet but your posts have been interesting. I searched for Catudal for a friend who doesn’t know her history. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-64943230010638088862022-06-02T09:30:42.627+02:002022-06-02T09:30:42.627+02:00The above comment was made by me. It defaults, app...The above comment was made by me. It defaults, apparently, to anonymous - who knew?Judy Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274218591428949741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-36411326318702368162022-06-02T09:28:22.646+02:002022-06-02T09:28:22.646+02:00That is a bit unusual, still, it could be that the...That is a bit unusual, still, it could be that the priest didn't know or couldn't recall, at the time of his writing out the marriage record, what her other known last name was and simply documented her name showing she was known under another name as well. If she had been born out of wedlock she would have assumed her mother's name. If she was raised by someone else she would have kept her birth name but could have used the last name of the people who raised her as a dit. If you tell me her birth date and place I can check to see if I can clarify this for you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-65294554982870922812022-05-12T00:23:51.697+02:002022-05-12T00:23:51.697+02:00Thank you this was very interesting. My 4x great g...Thank you this was very interesting. My 4x great grandmother, Angelique Laurent, is referred to as Angelique dit Laurent in her marriage document. I've never seen a "dit" between a first and last name. I'm guessing it might not be her actual last name. She was born out of wedlock so I'm thinking she might have been given the name by a sponsor/guardian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-18251037108545231462018-08-08T00:43:47.428+02:002018-08-08T00:43:47.428+02:00The link to the American French Genealogical Socie...The link to the American French Genealogical Society list of dit names no longer works (shows a 404 error). The AFGS now has a page at http://afgs.org/site/surname-variations/ which briefly explains dit names, recategorizing them more broadly as "Surname Variations." There is a link on that page to an Excel spreadsheet of surnames which, maddeningly, takes you to the surnames page that shows the 404 error. I've written to AFGS about the dead link and hope to hear back.Ed McDevitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01492927605471683730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-73440878014779943912014-03-03T23:47:59.826+01:002014-03-03T23:47:59.826+01:00Thank you so much for clearing up another mystery!...Thank you so much for clearing up another mystery! The reasons given for adding "dit" only intensify the desire to now learn why the addition in my own family history, going back to the early 1600's. Rogernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-61725779519298808382013-12-04T01:06:52.528+01:002013-12-04T01:06:52.528+01:00My husband is a descendant of Pierre Reaume born 1...My husband is a descendant of Pierre Reaume born 1701 who had an uncle with the same name who was only 10 years older than he was. The younger Pierre Reaume settled in the Detroit River Region first, so when his uncle Pierre Reaume arrived a few years later, they distinguished between the two by adding the dit name of Themus to his uncle. Many of his descendants kept the Reaume dit Themus surname. I have often wondered what on earth the meaning of Themus was.Linda Uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02292872295143471414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-72619062943625284402011-05-16T07:43:10.904+02:002011-05-16T07:43:10.904+02:00Hi Bettyann,
The dit name of St-Jean is a Canadia...Hi Bettyann,<br /><br />The dit name of St-Jean is a Canadian (New France) phenomenon. Jean-Baptiste came over from France, as far as can be determined so far, as Jean-Baptiste Catudal. He came to New France as a soldier, and as was tradition and a requirement by law, he was given, by his commander, the dit name of St-Jean.<br /><br />Dit names in France where not handed down by father to offspring. It was a personal thing. Not at all like what happened in New France (Canada). Dit names were or could be passed down from generation to generation in Canada.<br /><br />In my research of families from France carrying the name Catudal or Cadudal I have, not one time, found any of them using or being referred to with a dit name. That is not to say that they didn't have a dit name but none were recorded as such. Keep in mind that it doesn't mean our distant relatives in France did not use a dit name.<br /><br />Regards,<br />JudyJudy Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274218591428949741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-42050571929028168312011-05-15T22:06:46.037+02:002011-05-15T22:06:46.037+02:00Hi Judy wondering the adding of St-Jean could hav...Hi Judy wondering the adding of St-Jean could have this been started before during the French Revelution in Europe?? Regard,<br />Bettyann CatudalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-81274162868208098912011-05-14T14:42:54.489+02:002011-05-14T14:42:54.489+02:00My first book sold out rather quickly and is only ...My first book sold out rather quickly and is only available through inter-library loan from places like The Archives and Library of Canada, or the LDS Library in Utah, or from the Metro Reference Centre in Toronto...<br /><br />The next book The Families Catudal should be out later this year but I will only be publishing a very limited amount of books because of the expense. I'll write a blog on it closer to the time of publication and will let everyone know the details.Judy Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13274218591428949741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442627637067275598.post-33998861853945260842011-05-14T14:08:30.876+02:002011-05-14T14:08:30.876+02:00Thanks Judy, this is very interesting. I can see a...Thanks Judy, this is very interesting. I can see all the meticulous research that you have done. My grandparents lived close to the states - one of my uncles was a border crossing agent! My father being the only one of 9 children being alive, I will ask him if he remembers anything. Unfortunately his memory failing at 77.<br /><br />Are your books available for sale? <br /><br />thanks, PatriciaPatricia St-Jeannoreply@blogger.com